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Happy Friday, folks.

(I've never done a jack o' lantern before, but I figured that if creative, talented people could do this and these, surely I could manage a simple, traditional one.)
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not ruined yet
Halloween is a great holiday, so joyfully politically incorrect. Tightarses haven't managed to ruined it yet. Just don't be the turd in the neighborhood punchbowl who hands out raisins or granola bars. No jury would convict the reprobate who egged that house. :-)
Since this seems like basically the friday open thread, how about a report on gas prices in your area? I just got a gleeful pic from a buddy in MI showing 219, and we had Tully's report of 183 down in TX I think. Has it gone down more near you? If it goes under $2, that's as good as a pony, IMO. :-)
Round here in MA most of us are stuck using home heating oil, and the price of that has gone from mid 4's down to the mid 2's. Tough business to be in as most of the suppliers are small independent outfits with a handful of tanker trucks, and some bigger regional firms with lower prices, but who may not show up in an emergency right away.
I visited a web site tracking area prices, and the spread is like 80 cents. The guys who just refilled are selling at $2.40, and other guys are up near $3.20.
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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole
Seems to be in the $2.33 -
Seems to be in the $2.33 - $2.fortysomething region here, depending on where you fill up. Remember all that ink spilled over how we should just jolly well get used to the idea of paying four dollars per gallon?
"When someone says their heart needs lifting, don't ask how come, ask how high."
Tightarses haven't managed
Tightarses haven't managed to ruined it yet.
You obviously haven't spent much time in GA. The baptist ministers actually seem to have lightened up a bit now, but a few years back there were droves of kids who had to go to church and dress up as their favorite Bible character instead of trick or treating- and we've certainly had our fair share of raised eyebrows over some of our kids' costumes (not to mention my husband being questioned about what he was drinking as he walked the kids around the neighborhood.)
not for lack of trying
Oh, not for lack of trying. That's for sure. This am's radio was telling me about several schools that banned costumes and parties. They at least had the smarts to hide behind "limited instructional time" in order to minimize the chances they'd get showcased for being PC wet blankets. I actually have sympathy for the schools, most of who I think would be happy to celebrate halloween, xmas, and other holidays just as always, if not for the wet blanket patrol. Not to say schools are w/o WBP, just that the WBP thrives due to tightarse support.
I wish just for the sake of fun common ground and for kids we could all agree that the government celebrates only the secular component of halloween and christmas, whatever we decide to call 'em. That way we could keep saying boo and talking about Santa without so many people getting their panties all atwist.
Then we could allow individuals to bring in whatever spiritual components they wanted as personal manifestations of these ideas. If the official celebration centered on let's call it a philosophical concept (death, gratitude, rebirth, sacrifice), then everyone could express what the ideas meant to htem, to their culture, to their families. Especially given that so many cultures tend to have analogs for xmas, easter, and to a lesser extent halloween.
Few folks seem to agree with me on this, though.
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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole
$1.98 in Kansas, and I get a
$1.98 in Kansas, and I get a dime/gallon off at some places, so if I have to tank up today I'll pay $1.88. Bwa ha hah! Right in time for hunting season. Makes me want the 4x4 Suburban back. Without the extensive body-eating rust and the 350+K miles on it, of course.
The Texas report was via Theo and Mapquest, in Laredo. Today in Laredo it's $1.75. In Dallas it's $2.05, in San Antonio $1.97.
Round here in MA most of us are stuck using home heating oil
What, there's a LAW? Or is it that you just don't want to pay the $$$$ to convert? They make some very efficient electric and natural gas units nowadays.
I will make the rounds with the kids tonight. My costume will be a button that says "This IS my costume. I'm a homicidal maniac. We look just like everyone else."
c'mon now
C'mon now Tully.There's stuck and then there's stuck. It's the predominant form. The cost in money and aggravation to switch would be high. The break-even point? Surely distant. In some respects unknowable.
Remember when we agreed that whenever someone talked about the free market, they were usually referring to whatever was curently passing as the free market?
Same thing here. I'm talking about what passes for stuck. Who buys a house primarily based upon the heating method? Around here, insisting on gas would at a guess rule out at least 2/3 to /4 of homes.
Once you buy, you stick (are stuck with) with what you got unless it's approaching replacement time. Furnaces aren't that complicated, so one is unlikely to experience much reason to consider replacement on anything less than 20 or 30 years old unless they experience let's say a cracked boiler.
And you're going to pay probably a grand off the top to get rid of the old oil tank. By the time you add that to the replacement cost, even if you think you'll save $500 a year (iffy and hard to calculate), you're pushing the break-even point off a decade. Don't even get me started on british thermal units or marketing material passing itself off as instructional or educational. :-)
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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole
Check the price of scrap
Check the price of scrap metal. With steel at $100/ton or so they might even pay YOU to haul off the old tank. (You can get $350 or more for an old Suburban at the recyclers nowadays...aluminum wheels nudge that up a bit.) Or just not remove the tank. :-)
But you're saying I'm correct, you just don't want to pay the money to convert, that it's not a high enough priority to you. That's different than "stuck." What's your cost in aggro to get screwed on heating oil fills, and waiting for delivery, etc?
I do sympathize, especially on the "under 20 or 30 years" bit. I kept my old 1964 gas furnace running until last year when parts were no longer available (yes, did my own repairs, even to hand-manufacturing new motor brackets--I'm a cheap SOB) and didn't replace the AC/heatpump unit until the repair/parts cost hit a goodly fraction of new-unit cost. But my heat/AC bill was cut in half or better when I did replace both, and I likely won't have to repair every year or two for a good while. $500/yr? Heh. More like $1500 or so. Six-year payback for me, tops, NOT counting maintenenace costs saved. Shorter with rising fuel prices or extreme weather. Without replacing you might even check into new blower-motor efficiency...
really? I'm listening
You really think with heating oil at $2.50/gallon I'll save $1500/year by switching to gas? That sounds high. Or are you talking about your saving with your new furnace?
If you have a good back-of-the-envelope way to do the math, I'm all ears. Mostly what I have done is occasionally ask friends who hav gas what their monthly bills were during the winter. But they have gas stoves, some have kids and we don't, and my gas-using friend without kids isa renowned cheapskate so I KNOW I'd use more gas than him.
None of the numbers I have gotten have suggested our cost is that much higher. At least until last year when oil costs were punishingly high. Maybe I DO hasve to break down and digest BTUs. Problem is, every time I try, I get lost like right away,
My oil furnace isn't that old. Our house was built new in 94 and we're the 2nd owners. It's running at like 86%.
Update: I think I found an intelligible method. For comparison, what kind of efficiency rate does your new gas furnace get? Will that decline much over say the 1st 5 or 10 years?
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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole
As long as you do the proper
As long as you do the proper maintenance, efficiency should decline very little. My costs include summer AC. One does not live in the Plains without AC unless one is truly deranged. I always joke about how we masochistically visit Texas in August every year, but truth is central Texas is generally a touch cooler in August than it is here.
If your heater's only 14 years old and you've kept the heat exchanger clean and the filters changed, etc., you likely won't gain too much in efficiency with a new unit. Mine was over 40 years old and the efficiency was probably suckage%, and the AC was at least 20 years old with a SEER of maybe 9. I replaced them with a variable-speed hybrid heatpump/AC/furnace system with a SEER around 16 and HSPF a touch over 9 (woohoo! tax credit!). I think the furnace side is rated about 94% efficiency. When it gets too cold for the heatpump, the furnace kicks on to boost it, or I can also choose to go all one way or another when natural gas or electric prices spike.
I also installed a box/blower insert in the fireplace. Why let all that lovely heat go to waste? I just wish the fireplace were close enough to the central ducting to divert the blower into the ductwork...the den can get awful toasty when the fan is on high. Be nice to spread that around.
Good Lord, I didn't know it had gotten that low yet.
Lowest it's been here is $2.26. Bunch of lucky ducks you are in Kansas. Lucky ducks indeed. :-)
"In the world you will find tribulation, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
PHX, AZ lowest price $2.45
Chris
Or Toothbrushes.
People who hand out toothbrushes or dental floss deserve to have their outhouse turned over, dadgummit!
Fortunately, I'm past trick-or-treating. I'd probably show up at the Bible Halloween party dressed as Eve (before the fall), and that gets a mite chilly in October. I could probably dress up as Judith with a bloody ax in one hand and the General's head in the other, but that would scare the other kids.
So in the meantime, I'm cruising the web, and watching things like this YouTube video of French students doing their own version of Thriller. In one take.
So, if you're a film geek (like me) or even if you're not, that's my Halloween treat. Lots of pretty girls, cute guys in leather jackets, and an amazing one take.
You can come to MY party!
I'd probably show up at the Bible Halloween party dressed as Eve (before the fall), and that gets a mite chilly in October.
You can come to MY party! The new furnace works fine. ;-)
LOL! Thanks, Tully
But I probably wouldn't get to enjoy your new furnace too long--the cops would arrest me for indecent exposure, and I'd hate to spoil my perfect non-arrest record. ;-)
I guess I'll have to stick to my Hillary voter costume; that one scares BOTH sides.
Leawood, KS
Just filled up for $1.97. Leawood is part of the greater (?) Kansas City area.
Ok to post links in the open thread?
The Save $1,000 in 30 Days Challenge
http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/announcing-the-save-1000-in-30-days-challenge
Jail-for-adultery law upheld
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081030/od_nm/us_adultery_1
"South Korea's highest court upheld Thursday a decades-old adultery law that can send people to jail for having an extramarital affair that critics say is anachronistic and infringes on personal freedom."
Thoughts?
*Yes, really, Simon's wife. Envy or pity me. ;)