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Submitted by Tully on Fri, 10/26/2007 - 10:39pm

Edwards Camp Asked to Pull Student Story

OK, the headline is a bit misleading. No one asked the Edwards camp to do anything. The Edwards camp demanded that a story on YouTube be pulled. This one:

A University of North Carolina professor said Friday that John Edwards' campaign demanded that he pull a student reporter's television story that focused on the upscale location of the campaign's headquarters.

C.A. "Charlie" Tuggle, an associate professor at the school, said the Edwards campaign contacted the reporter, second-year master's degree student Carla Babb, asking for a video of her report to be removed from the Internet. When that failed, the campaign demanded in three calls to Tuggle that the TV story be killed, he said.

...In the report, Babb interviews students, one on the campaign, one not. She asks whether it is appropriate for Edwards to base his operations in his affluent hometown of Chapel Hill, home of the university, as opposed to a location that would better reflect his campaign platform of fighting poverty.

Well, they said that if Bush were re-elected that politicians would be threatening the media...and they were right. It really reminds me of...nah, I'd just be accused of CDS if I said it.

UPDATE: Lotsa good linkages on the story via Tom Maguire, who thinks that the Edwards campaign has a (political) death wish. It does kind of resemble deaf people walking on freeways.

Wanting It Both Ways

The student who works for Edwards says on one hand that having his campaign headquarters outside of Washington means he's a candidate for the people; then, in almost the next breath, he says that where Edwards has his headquarters is not emblematic of anything.

Edwards didn't run for reelection here for several reasons: talking out of both sides of his mouth was one.

GQ Bill Power

Sure, power is used to one's advantage and Hillary can play hard ball. My past points claimed she has to because of the position she is in now. The path she has traveled requires strong defenses and smallsteps forwards. She hasn't been a Senator for very long. Many suggest she talks but says nothing or doesn't have large ideas. I think that's in part her lowering the damage from staking out her anti-nutroot positions. Who are her Democratic enemies?Yes, she has learned a thing or two from Bush.

On another note Asians are not happy with the Hsu hunt. I think the GOP has ticked off every minority group at this point.

I used to own a home in

I used to own a home in Southern Village before moving to its fraternal twin, Meadowmont. The reporter in the piece missed the point of the Southern Village location. The Edwards headquarters is directly upstairs from a steakhouse with full bar. And an Asian restaurant with full bar. Across the square is an Italian restaurant and pizzeria with a full bar.

The same area also has a coffee shop/gelato stand, a natural foods store, a bookstore and a UPS store, all useful. Then there's the movie theater and the gym and the hairdresser.

An area about a square block in total which comes with ample free parking, coffee, pizza, Chinese and not one, not two, but three bars? That's a campaign headquarters. If only I could believe that Edwards would govern as well as he chooses campaign headquarters.

And to add to what Michael

And to add to what Michael said, two links were provided above. Edwards didn't want his image confused with his Southern Village location given the questions about his image appeal to the poor. He has taken many hits that his poverty appeal is a put on. On the other hand the GQ link shows Hillary suppressing a story about some insider fights. Well, she wants to appear strong and uses her power to dump the story. These are two different acts of filtering.

To me at least, they aren't as phoney as driving a red truck a few blocks to work nor do they approach the behavior of the Bush campaign in 2000. Some real damage for Edwards came as it was disclosed a company he invested in was taking away homes from Katrina victims who were broke. That tarnished his image as the poverty populist. The only problem with Edward's location is that it doesn't play so well with the primary voters he's courting, though it is a good choice for the Independents required in the general election. It reminds me of my college campus.

The problem is the same one

The problem is the same one Edwards has had all along. He talks about two Americas, but he only lives in one of them, and it's not the same one most of the rest of us live in.

That, and his lack of experience make him look like a flashy phony, all talk and no walk, all hat and no cattle, etc. He's all angles and no substance.

A lovely place for an

A lovely place for an apartment. A GREAT place to be a campaign worker. :-)

So do you thinks he/his

So do you thinks he/his campaign is inept or insincere?
Chris

Yes and yes, and desperate

Yes and yes, and desperate to boot. He's sounding a lot more like Frank Noland nowadays than presidential material.

Hey Chris

if you're asking me, yes.

Edwards seems to have been phoney as the VP for Kerry too, given his positions now. Funny thing is, Obama had created a more centrist image (and I mean image) and thought moving Left was a good ideas. Polls sugeest he was wrong. I think his worst moments were simply inept strategy as Hillary checked him at every turn.

Edwards, I believe was also more to center years back, but he had this irriatation about his popular image of being a rich lawyer and the Status Quo. He moved Left as some kind of Liberation from the "corner" he had been painted in but polls suggest, few are buying the new product. His numbers reflect ineptness and a healthy degree of insincereity. Well, that's my opinion at least.

Romney, Guiliani and Thompson all have sincereity issues. If pandering and flip-flops are degreees of insincerity, they all suffer. Thompson has been fairly inept. You can see what Republican I most respect. I do give Rudy some points for balls as I do McCain. Huckabee has some questionable behavior and tries to combine class warfare with creationism. I do give him points for delivery. Seems like a nice guy. He tries to call his abortion stand is sound because he "believes in God", but ensoulment is a particular religious article. Abortion is a Holocaust? He down plays creationism on CNN and says creationism and science can be compatible. Yes, if you suspend rational disbelief. OOooppps.. sorry Chris...LOL.

pretty fricken asinine

It's discouraging to me that vehicles like youtube are being used to guerilla market ridiculous notions with tiny shreds of surface appeal but little real substance. (though i concede it's inevitable) I mean, come on, are we really supposed to factor in the locations of candidates' campaign HQ in making choices?

I happen to largely agree with Tully's typescasting that Edwards is something of an all hat no cattle phony. But even so, I'm a little worried when folks are invited to shape their opinions on candidates based on things like clothes, haircuts, cars driven, planes used, restaurants eaten at, and so on.

Not to mention the crafty addition of little virtually unverifiable stories that are shopped to drive home the typecasting. In Edwards case, I am thinking of a story I read somewhere about Edwards tryiong to win over another pol in a private moment with afake "I've never told anyone this story before but...." revelation. I don't recall the exact details, but it was pretty juicy, and if true, creepy and telling. But there was no way for an ordinary person to ascertain whether it was true or 100% fiction.

That's why I prefer to review candidates suggested policies, decide how serious I think they are, and then ask the most important question about each suggested policy:"could this actually get passed, and what would it look like after mediated into law.

I'd rather elect an insincere dink who moves the country a hair closer to what i think it should look like, than to elect someone who eats, dresses, drives and listens to the same music as me but would push the country in the way I think is wrong.

People love to think the personal day-to-day stuff is symbolic in an important way, but is it? First of all, it's a given that such stuff is being cherrypicked by partisans both fer and agin, so how much attention ought we to pay to stories claiming to illustrate that a candidate either does or doesn't love his wife, child, dog, god or country enough?

__________
I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole

Bucyrus Half-Recalls

In Edwards case, I am thinking of a story I read somewhere about Edwards tryiong to win over another pol in a private moment with afake "I've never told anyone this story before but...." revelation. I don't recall the exact details, but it was pretty juicy, and if true, creepy and telling.

My recollection is that he told John Kerry the story of hugging his dead son at the funeral parlor and he prefaced it with the "I've never told anyone this story before..." Trouble is, he told Kerry the same story twice. There were others who recalled the same story prefaced the same way.

Creepy is right.

LOL

LOL. A pair of quotes

"The secret of acting is sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made." --George Burns

Who adapted it from a near-contemporary....

"The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made." --Groucho Marx

Well, The media prefers this

filtering rather than discussing global events in a nonpartisan fashion. However, I doubt Edwards wants to talk about Syrian nuke programs, Iran, border security, lower death tolls in Iraq, the Armenian resolution, etc.

I'm sure Rudy and Mitt prefer not to talk about image and family too, but then factual history might haunt them upon closer examination.

Some of the filtering blame should not go to just partisan PR, but to the media that changes news reports every 24 hours without an apology for uninformed editorializing or an explanation as to why they seem misinformed and incorrect.

Given the media framing, we are left, sadly, with haircuts, dogs and family stress. I, like you, wish it would change.....

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