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When Brad Ellsworth was looking to unseat John Hostettler here in Indiana last fall, he went out of his way to say that he was opposed to amnesty. Today, Ellsworth issued a press release on the "compromise" bill presently before the Senate:
On the day this bill becomes law, 12 million illegal immigrants will be eligible for legal protections they didn’t have the day before. And each one will gain those protections despite having broken America’s immigration laws. As a former law enforcement officer, rewarding people with amnesty for breaking our laws just doesn’t sit right with me. I don’t blame people for wanting to come to America; it’s a great place to live and work. All I ask is that they do it legally.
... [T]he cornerstones of immigration reform must include securing our borders, ensuring reliable employment verification, and enforcing laws already on the books. I believe those are the places we must start to fix this problem.
...
For the past five years, Congress and the President have shortchanged border security and looked the other way while our laws were broken. In 2004, Congress enacted the 9/11 Act which mandated the hiring of 10,000 border patrol agents over the next five years. Yet from September 2001 through April 2006, only 1,641 border patrol agents were hired.
Good to see that he's sticking to his guns on this. Ellsworth has a bill "intended to help well-intentioned employers ensure their workforces are legal, and double the minimum fines on employers who break our laws and hire illegal immigrants. An abundance of jobs for illegal immigrants is one of the main causes of the immigration problem we face. Without available jobs, illegal immigrants have little incentive to leave their native countries."
Economics problem, not a law enforcement problem
The economic demand for these workers is very high. It will not be substantially affected by law enforcement actions. Increased enforcement against employers will mainly lead to the illegal immigrants getting better-quality fake IDs, which will increase identity theft.
Secure the borders better and provide an easy, legal immigration route for millions of immigrants, and maybe that'll stem the economic demand for the illegal immigrants. But that's just not going to happen. Congress won't have the political will to vote in favor of relatively unrestricted immigration of millions of unskilled and low-skilled workers.
I'm really getting very worried about these misguided efforts to "do something" by creating these national ID cards and databases, whereby the federal government must certify you as an individual legally entitled to work. I can imagine few things more un-American than that, frankly. In the end, they won't solve the problem, but they sound nice to the demagogues and they might pass. Then we'll be stuck with the still-unsolved problem of illegal immigration AND we'll have a new, massive bureaucracy in charge of determining who is and is not a citizen and legally allowed to be gainfully employed.
My earlier post on ID theft and this national database
Read Illegal Immigration and Identity Theft.
That was one thing that few picked up on in the first GOP debate
practically all the candidates favored a national ID, but only for immigrants, as if that wasn't worse somehow. You're right Pat, a lot of these measures (national ID, revoking birthright citizenship, etc) will not only not solve the problem, they're flat-out un-American.
"In the world you will find tribulation, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
On Ellsworth...
Though I suspect I might not agree with these folks on much else, I'm with them in their criticism of Ellsworth, a Democrat trying to move to the extreme right on immigration.
Co-conspirators
Our nation has chosen, over the past 2 decades, to take a very lax view towards illegal immigration from our southern neighbors. We have reaped, I believe, some fairly substantial economic benefit from their presence (perhaps at some cost to the taxpayer, perhaps not, I don't think that's been settled yet). On the whole, we have looked the other way and been perfectly happy to tolerate their presence in our country as they plucked our chickens, picked our lettuce, mowed our grass, and watched our children.
So to those who scream that these immigrants, the ones who actually work, are "FELONS!" I say, so are we all. We are their co-conspirators. You're right, they wouldn't have come here if we weren't hiring them. If we're going to adopt a zero-tolerance policy for law-abidingness, and refuse them amnesty because they entered this country illegally, then a substantial number of our own citizens are guilty as co-conspirators. Before massive deportation begins, I demand that the immigrants be required to name every single American individual and company who ever hired them, and then we must in good conscience arrest those co-conspirators, too.
Treating the immigrants, but not their previous employers, as unpardonable felons is like prosecuting the prostitutes but not the Johns.
no problem
Lots of folks would have no problem with that, Pat. It doesn't bother me all that much. It might even move the discussion forward. We could have a discussion about what sort of punitive measures would be realistic and apprpriate for both the prostitutes and the johns. Fine by me. I must admit that I'm chuckling a little bit about your blithe dismissal of the chasm between the laws as written and as enforced. You being a lawyer. Do you grant any force to Simon's contention that laws ought to be either enforced or repealed?
:-) Joking:-) Joking:-) Joking
BTW, You seem pretty passionately against national ID cards. Scared witless even. You must've read too many dystopian totalitarian novels.
:-) Joking :-) Joking :-) Joking :-)
Seriously though, I view the combination of information technology and DNA testing as constituting the unleashing of a Pandora's Box of identification and tracking upon society. Within 2 or 3 generations, tagging at birth by DNA is pretty likely to be routine. Never mind ID cards. Each of will BE a biological identity card. There's be nowhere to run from who you are, and folks will often be watching. Almost always in public, and always in cyberspace/ Some country or other will be first with the DNA ID stuff, and others will follow quickly. The overwhelming and widespread utility will prove insurmountable to privacy advocates. And we'll most of us come to accept it.
And really, you could argue that it's just another thing or two to put in the magnificent and growing human toolbox. As always, whether it is put to primarily good or ill use will be up to us. I try my best to believe that on my good days, anyway.
Thinking ahead
A National ID card is coming. With it comes a national discourse about civil liberties in the 21 century. I think the nation must revisit the idea of privacy (from a Constitutional view) extending into medical issues like embryonic stem cell research and DNA use. When terrorism gets a bit more uncomfortable here, biomedical markers for identity will become a metric required for travel and admission.
There may be an argument for enforcing employer hiring conduct, but enforcement alone simply robs employers of labor competition. If illegals are allowed to work, they will still undercut American workers and provide employers some advantage. With the cost of new construction in some cities over $200 per sq. ft., illegals can continue to curb the increase, if allowed to come out of the shadows.
Amnesty is a bad term. Learning English, staying at a job, being free from convictions, paying both a penalty and the $1400 to change status, etc., make this different than amnesty. I think the present bill has problems like a 24-hour background check, or the speed of building a security fence. These can be fixed. I think future security depends on better identification, a qualified amnesty, a worker program and better border security to work as a real solution. Illegals will still present a problem (many will not meet qualifications) if we don't have better workplace and payroll inspection with enforced fines. Illegals would make great undercover INS agents. I suppose some insurance coverage must be provided those that come forward. Perhaps a national service option could expedite qualified immigrants and furnish some medical and housing help. And that fence will need a lot of workers?...
legally speaking
Aside from the final graf, what follows is a tweak, so be patient, amigo.
The only reason I've bothered to belabor this is that the amnesty/not amnesty framing seems to make it difficult for folks to move to any sort of reasonable discussion about what sorts of punitive measures are appropriate and reasonable and which ones are unrealistic and/or draconian.
I would offer this...
I would offer this as exhibit #1 that Congress will not authorize larger numbers of legal immigration or guest worker avenues. Make no mistake, the vocal anti-immigration crowd for the most part wants less immigration, period, not just less illegal immigration.
what's your equation
I think that's quite possibly what I want. I dopn't mind it if we decrease the total amount of immigration somewhat, especially if we also change the ratio of skilled to unskilled workers. Suppose for the sake of argument total immigration amounts to X illegal + Y legal, and amounts to a total influx of 3 million more people. ( don't know what an estimate of the annual number is, and it's not especially relevant to my point).
So X illegal + Y legal = 3 million.
I'd like to see comprehensive reform that did something like 0.5 illegal + 2 legal = 2.5 million. And I'm only making an argument about form, not about actual ratios. In otgher words, I see all the following goals as desirable:
?substantially reduce the number of immigrants who come here illegally via punishment and border security, to improve national security and protect our rule of law
? somewhat reduce the the number of new unskilled workers that come here via employer monitoring, to provide some protection for the standard of living of unskilled Americans, even if it means higher lettuce, construction, and landscaping prices
? somewhat increase the number of skilled workers that come here, to protect the competitiveness of American industry
? reward able and hardworking immigrant guests with the opportunity to become citizens
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For the past five years,
For the past five years, Congress and the President have shortchanged border security and looked the other way while our laws were broken. In 2004, Congress enacted the 9/11 Act which mandated the hiring of 10,000 border patrol agents over the next five years. Yet from September 2001 through April 2006, only 1,641 border patrol agents were hired.
For a freshman he sure does a lot of posturing. He's fudging the numbers quite a bit, and in fact the number he cites is a flat-out lie as presented. His citations are downright dishonest.
Many more agents than that were hired, that's the net increase in border-agents-on-duty after attrition: retirements, transfers, etc. And it's strictly for border agents--many of those who transferred went to ICE and to the new "tech" border surveillance teams. I also like the back-dating of the legislation. A 2004 bill wouldn't come into effect until appropriations to match came through in the new budget, which wouldn't hit until 2005. In fiscal year 2006, CBP Border Patrol staffing increased by 8 percent, from 11,265 to 12,349.
And let's notice that attrition in the BP was running about 10% from 1996-2004. It was almost 20% in 2002, as agents left to join the Air Marshall serice, which pays better and doesn't require toodling around in the desert heat. Nothin' like picking a starting point right before a major setback in numbers! For Ellsworth's statement on hiring to be true, you have to ignore ALL hiring that filled positions opened by attrition.
In 2004 pay was boosted from GS-9 to GS-11, and attrition in 2005 was down to 4%.
He also doesn't mention that the previous staffing expansion (1996-2001) of almost 5,000 agents was (rightly) criticized for poor screening that let in some agents later accused of corruption, and assisting the smuggling of both people and drugs. Nor does he mention the NG border deployments, whihc provided effective increases in border agent numbers without using actual border agents.