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Submitted by Pat on Wed, 04/29/2009 - 3:13pm

In discussing Arlen Specter's defection from the Republican party which has provided him with heavy support over the last couple of election cycles despite his frequent straying from the party line, I began discussing with Jim M other issues related to the problems facing the Republican Party. Simon's asked me to post that bit on the front page and, as he has been holding down the fort so much here, I figured I better do as he asks... ;-) I've edited this slightly from its original appearance here. You should really go read the entire conversation Jim and I had, which starts about here.

Certainly in the broader sense the electorate always gets what it deserves, by definition. The problem is, I don't think that, in a more utilitarian and less philosophical sense, the voters really have gotten what they wanted. They want a more reduced size of government, they want lower taxes for themselves, they want less government involvement in the economy (on the whole), but they haven't gotten that. They didn't put the GOP in power to deliver Medicare Part D. They didn't vote for Bush the first time because they wanted an adventurous foreign policy.

My own theory is that the religious right was hijacked and terribly manipulated by folks like Tom DeLay. That wing of the GOP, the wing which basically tore up the Contract with America, wanted power for its own sake, and it was inevitable that they would create the same problems that plagued the power-blinded Dan Rostenkowski Democrats. Folks like Specter (and Snowe and Collins) never pointed their finger at that manipulation. Instead, they railed against the well-intentioned religious voters back home. That was stupid. Very poor messaging.

I agree that nobody so far seems to have stepped up to the plate to provide some leadership to help focus and shape the anger shown in the tea parties (note that "nobody" includes the supposedly wonderful moderate Republicans like Specter, Snowe, and Collins). I don't know of any new Reagans tirelessly working the inner workings of the party to gain support for a new conservative movement (note that Reagan spent most of his adult life doing just that; he wasn't a Schwarzenegger who just showed up one day to turn in his "movie star" hat and run for office).

But part of the problem, I continue to maintain, is that the importance of the party has been weakened too much by several decades of campaign finance reform (as well as some unhelpful over-zealotry by hard-core single-issue folks who took over some party machinery in both parties). As you suggest, party membership is much less important in many elections today, not just because of the voters, but because the party itself is more limited in how it can directly assist the candidate. A stronger party organization would, I believe, lead to better, more centrist policy making.

Why? Well, right now campaign finance caps force political donations to be distributed more broadly. A guy who wants to give $1 million in a campaign cycle can't just write one big check to one candidate or to the party. Instead, he's got to give some money here and some money there, $5,000 to this PAC, another $2,500 to some other PAC, etc., etc., etc. This naturally causes the creation of more and more PACs to compete for those dollars. Would the Club for Growth get as many donations without these artificial limits, or would the party machinery itself have a better chance at getting the dollars? I think the party itself would have a strong leg up in getting those donations. In turn, that means that the party would want to craft as broad an appeal as possible (without violating core principles), in order to attract as much money as possible. Thus, it would impose some moderation by its control over doling out those funds. But today, money flows to Club for Growth and other single-issue organizations, which raise more money by being more ideologically pure.

Had Nothing to do with ANYthing Except Getting Re-Elected

This cynical, self-serving move had absolutely nothing to do with values, policy, or any high-minded thinking of any kind- though President Obama surely would like for you to think that.

Everybody knows he did it because he was down 21% in the polls leading-up to the GOP primary for his seat- and Joey Pluggs made a deal with him, he already admitted as such. The sad truth is that this hack has spent three decades in the Senate, while accomplishing little.

And Barack and him have a lot in common- as unprincipled political opportunists, I’m sure they’ll get along just great.

Just a little over a month ago, the Senator said in an interview that he wouldn’t switch parties due to the importance of checks and balances.

And back in 2001, Sen. Arlen Specter, then a Republican, proposed a rule forbidding party switches… he was upset when Vt Sen. Jim Jeffords’ left the GOP to become an independent.

Who knows what the truth is with this guy, you’ll never get it from him.

With all due respect, Senator- don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out. Nobody on our side’s going to miss you.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

Civil War

If the GOP is going to be saved, its not by the people who jockey for votes. Before the party can be built, the conservative movement needs to settle. From what I can tell, Specter is the first major event in this civil war.

If this means the conservatives are winning, I don't know. But from what the radio hosts on AM and SIRIUS/XM are saying, the so-called moderates may be dropping (or defecting) like flies in the next year.

Hmmm..

" Certainly in the broader sense the electorate always gets what it deserves, by definition. The problem is, I don't think that, in a more utilitarian and less philosophical sense, the voters really have gotten what they wanted. "
I have a very hard time with that quip, in fact I don't believe it at all. Somehow it assumes we have some grandly perfect governmental conglomeration here.
Since they're voting in Iraq now, do they get what they deserve, too.
I think nowadays people love these cleches and soundbite explanations, love them so much they embrace them as if they are nearly literal biblical text.
It's clear to me there is a very entrenched apparatus at the two party level, and when Perot threatened that, the corrupt parties locked out the next comers in their enforced doupoly.
As a voter, I get one chance. All the rest is already decided for me, and the incumbent re-election rate is usually 98%.
One has to flatly assume in a fair system where voters and political life and being a politicans isn't a contrived affair crontrolled from entrenched power, the turnover rate would be about 50%.
Did this person do worse or better than the last person in this spot - that's a fifty fifty propostion. A bit higher for experience perhaps, but not much.
We no longer get what we derserve, unless you're calling us non-revolutionaries. We can't restore what we can't change peacefully.
How does one vote other than, for very, very often, the single person listed on the ballot in many cases ? The system is so solidified with power at the top coming down, and the bar so high, and requiring entrenched interests to allow anyone in ----
We don't get what we deserve - we can't even change what we get, even though we want to.
THERE IS NOONE ELSE ON THE BALLOT, AND WE CAN'T GET THEM ON IT EITHER.
The system does not work correctly.
RARELY, there is a surprise. Last I recall was Jesse Ventura.
The only reason I could accept that statement is if it comes under the context of not being willing to violently overthrow the current system - and there is grave doubt that is possible in modern governments with the weaponry and force they have at their disposal.

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