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Last year, "the Midwest Democracy Network, an alliance of 20 civic and public interest groups based in Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin, released the results of a questionnaire that they sent to all of the presidential candidates." One of the Presidential candidates responding was Senator Obama. One of the questions read as follows:
If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in presidential public financing system?
Senator Obama answered the foregoing question as follows:
Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests. I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) bill to reform the presidential public financing system. In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.
Senator Obama's statement last year that he would participate in public financing is in no way inconsistent with Senator Obama's announcement today that he will not participate in public financing, because it is absolutely clear that when Senator Obama made that promise, he could not possibly have foreseen that he would stand to have more money available to him by opting out.
Furthermore, Team McCain's Jill Hazelbaker, quoted in the New York Times, is obviously wrong to say that Senator Obama's "reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics." As that very same NYT article notes, Senator Obama's decision makes him "the first candidate of a major party to decline public financing — and the spending limits that go with it — since the system was created in 1976, after the Watergate scandals." Senator Obama is therefore rejecting the system that elected Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. It is entirely clear that in doing so, Senator Obama is moving beyond the failed systems of the past that have produced the disastrous politics of the past. How can this be called anything but change? How can this brave break with the past be represented as anything but a new kind of politics?
Ms. Hazelbaker adds that “The true test of a candidate for President is whether he will stand on principle and keep his word to the American people," and that Senator Obama "has failed that test today...." We can all agree that this is surely wrong. The true test of a candidate for President is whether they recognize that our souls are broken in this country, and whether they are willing to sacrifice everything - their lives, their fortunes, their sacred credibility - to ensure that we do not return to our lives as normal. What is more, I do not see how questioning Senator Obama's integrity can possibly be a conversation that helps Michelle Obama's children. What we must focus on here is that Senator Obama represents hope. Specifically: hope you don't ask too many questions; hope you don't look too closely; hope you have short memories.
I know this may make your brain hurt. But this election season will be more painless if you accept now that Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Added: how do we lampoon something when the official explanation itself reads like a satire? Obama's explanation is that he is asking his supporters "to try to do something that’s never been done before. Declare our independence from a broken system, and run the type of campaign that reflects the grassroots values that have already changed our politics and brought us this far." In other words, as Tapper notes, "[d]eclaring independence from a 'broken system' by breaking a promise. Obama hopes you'll care more about the former than the latter."
Related: "[M]ostly it seems to be about him, his sense of destiny, and his appreciation of his own particular gifts" (collecting posts).
Post facto:
"No, Mr. Obama, or so he would have you believe, is forgoing the money because he is so committed to public financing." (6/20/08)
Support John McCain (11/3/08)
You almost had me there, Simon.
Sarcasm aside, I'm calling this a strike against Obama. I suppose he could try to make the case that McCain broke his word, and has been privately funding his campaign, but that's a bit dubious, and doesn't really get Obama off the hook for flipping on this. It;s obvious that he fipped, and it's obvious why he did so.
Whole lot of flipping going on lately...
"In the world you will find tribulation, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
Well, Rafique, he's always
Well, Rafique, he's always told us that he's the candidate of "change," so can we really complain now that he's "change[d]" his mind?
Ha! That was good. Look, at the end of the day, this probably
won't hurt him that much, if he just comes out and admits that he flipped. His "McCain did it first" excuse isn't going to work though.
"In the world you will find tribulation, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
It hurts him, though,
It hurts him, though, because it goes to his credibility. To paraphrase California's criminal jury instructions, if voters decide that a candidate deliberately lied about something significant to their case for being elected, they should consider not believing anything that witness says. It's not good enough for Obama to act like any other politician, because he has held himself to a higher standard. If any other politician did something shamelessly self-serving regarding money, you shrug, because that's politics as normal. But Obama has condemned politics as normal, and for him to be caught engaging in it hurts him in ways it couldn't possibly hurt someone else. It adds hypocrisy as a multiplier to the baseline criticism engendered venality of the act.
Well certainly it does real damage, but I don't think this will
sink him (I should've been more specific there) if he owns up to it right away. His complaining about McCain's 527's is weak and dodgy.
"In the world you will find tribulation, but be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world."
John 16:33
On Rafique's comment on "flipping"..
Cool... just in time for the Olympics.
Who do you think *is* the most physically flexible anyway? Which one can make a bridge out of himself...literally?
Rachel
I brew the beer I drink
Simon, after Obama's Ascension...
...won't you look silly.
Given his lineage, Rich,
Given his lineage, Rich, I worry more about looking dead after his ascension.
"When someone says their heart needs lifting, don't ask how come, ask how high."
Congratulations! I believe
Congratulations! I believe this may be your first ever legitimate criticism of Obama.
But you still don't get what's happening with this guy. Obambi? You should read David Brooks today, he's much closer to getting the picture.
The toughness and occasional ruthlessness of Obama was always there for anyone to see -- at least anyone who wasn't reading GOP talking points about Obama's supposed naivete, or his supposed secret radicalism. This guy just took down Bill and Hillary -- something your side never managed. And he's Obambi? He's a naif? He's a cult leader? He's a Black Panther mole?
GOP bloggers remind me of Bob Dole's "where's the outrage?" campaign of desperation. Dole was asking the question when it was already crystal clear to anyone who was paying attention to American politics that The People weren't going to bite, that The People had already decided Clinton was the lesser of two evils, that The People didn't give a tripe sandwich (my obligatory Italian reference) about Clinton's Oval Office fun time. The People have a much clearer picture of Obama than you do, Simon, because The People are reading the guy himself and not letting themselves be mesmerized by partisanship.
Nothing you and your ideological soul mates have hit Obama with has stuck. You're asking "Where's the fear?" at a stage when it is already crystal clear that this particular line of attack just ain't gonna work. You're going to need to do what none of you on the right seem able to do: actually sell McCain. Baracknaphobia (props to Jon Stewart) isn't working. You'll have to swallow hard and convince people to vote for McCain, not against Obama.
Michael, what I can't
Michael, what I can't understand is where you get to thinking that you're in a position to post that link while being smugly self-assured that you're okay. Brooks, the media set, and a lot of moderates - and, alas, this includes you - fell in love with Obama because they were caught up in the breathless rush to the cult of personality, taken in by some honey-tongued vacuities that should not have fooled anyone. Looking at Obama's demographics always reminded me of Orwell's quip that some ideas are so ridiculous that only the highly educated could believe them.
Brooks' column amounts to an admission that he was duped. You're focusing on the tree of his point that Obama isn't naive while missing the forest: that this man has shown himself to be a self-interested serpent. The intelligence of someone who now believes anything that comes out his his mouth, after the last six months, has to be doubted. Obama has shown himself a sanctimonious self-serving liar, guided by no higher principle than what had political utility at any given moment.
Brooks has freed his mind from the shackles of Obama; the things that supposedly made Obama different - the ones I always told you were a shallow facade - have been revealed as a shallow facade. The raison d'etre for his campaign has been shown to be window dressing. Brooks is showing you the door - and I urge you to walk through it post-haste.
"When someone says their heart needs lifting, don't ask how come, ask how high."
Simon: You wrote: Brooks,
Simon:
You wrote:
Brooks, the media set, and a lot of moderates - and, alas, this includes you - fell in love with Obama because they were caught up in the breathless rush to the cult of personality, taken in by some honey-tongued vacuities that should not have fooled anyone.
This is what I wrote when I switched from Hillary to Obama:
My one confident prediction for this election is that a) someone will be elected, and b) they will be a disappointment. That's my 80 proof cynicism.
. . .
Don't bother telling me all the reasons Obama isn't ready. I know them. Don't bother pointing out every half-formed policy, every wrongheaded position. I know. Hillary's more right than Obama. (And McCain's more right than Obama on a number of issues.)
But it's about more than policy papers now. Its about being sick to death of Atwater-Clinton-Rove politics. It's about being nauseated by the idea of more automatic, tit-for-tat partisanship, more strategic divisiveness. Enough of Republican fear-mongering. Enough of the Democratic politics of envy and resentment. Enough of using patriotism as a weapon. Enough of triangulating. Enough with the seething and the ranting and the rage-aholism.
I'm not giving up all my cynical armor. I'm keeping the snark and the smirk and the wry look. But I'm taking off the chainmail. I'm taking a chance. I'm throwing in with Obama.
When Rick Moran accused me of being a cultie I wrote this:
Listen up, fellow Obama supporters. If you are under the impression that Mr. Obama is anything other than a politician, put down the bong. The papers, too. You don't get into the United States Senate without being a politician. In fact, if by some miracle you were not a politician on the morning you were sworn in as a United States Senator, you will sure as h*ll be one before your first full day at work comes to an end.
Further, Mr. Obama has just spent the better part of the last year bitch-slapping his party's pre-eminent political machine. From sea to shining sea, Mr. Obama and his people have outwitted, outplayed and outlasted not just Hillary Clinton, but the Big Dog. That's not evidence that Mr. Obama is Mister Rogers. It wasn't magic that made this triumphal procession possible. It wasn't supernatural. It didn't just happen. It wasn't because we all beamed happy thoughts at him. It happened because he put together one h*ll of a political machine which, again, argues that Mr. Obama may, just may, be a politician.
Will Mr. Obama lie to us? God yes. Will Mr. Obama manipulate us? Of course. Can we trust him? Absolutely. Absolutely. Trust is good. And by the way, my car is for sale, I . . . I only took it out on Sundays and then I never drove it over 45 miles an hour. Trust me.
You have from the start made the assumption that Obama supporters fit your predetermined view of them. You're simply wrong. You've been wrong from the start. And you're wrong about me and my support for him. I don't need lessons in skepticism from anyone.
But I note that even now, in this rebuttal, you cannot bring yourself to say a kind word for your presumed candidate. What do you want to bet that I've written more complimentary things about McCain than you have?
You will not win on fear alone. But it seems that's all you have.
[W]hen I switched from
That's quite an ironic comment given that you yourself pointed to an article by David Brooks noting that Obama's move yesterday is so breathtakingly cynical that even Lee Atwater himself would be floored.
And as I said, if you thought for an instant that Obama was any different in that regard, you were taken in. You were taken in by a politician who told you what you wanted to hear. That seems a lot like politics as normal before. And now we can see that this politician doesn't consider himself bound by what he said on the primary campaign trail - if you thought before that he might be serious about all that stuff you liked, you can't seriously do so now.
Your mistake was taking off the chainmail, which I assume is a metaphor for switching off the part of your brain responsible for critical thinking.
As to selling McCain, I see no need to play door-to-door salesman. This here's a blog - you can get a sense of my views on policy issues from reading it, and McCain is much better than Obama on foreign policy, domestic policy, judicial appointments, and, frankly, temperament. For the life of me, I can't see why that isn't enough. He isn't perfect, but better is good enough.
A few points from the front lines...
This guy just took down Bill and Hillary
Er, he only took down Hillary (and in my view Bill helped with that when let off his leash) and he had more than a little bit of help. Like the entire Howard Dean brigade of Fine Young Cannibals, the "progressive" left in revolt against the DLC New Democrats. I've watched this from the front lines over the last several months, even if I've only hinted at it here for reasons of my own. And your time sequences are inverted re: Clinton/Dole. Slick Willy's Oval Office Happy Fun-Time activities did not come out until well after he'd been re-elected. People (including me) werequite willing not to hold his pre-Oval Office fun times against him, but the Cigar/Dress Follies still lay in the future in '96.
Cult leader? Snake oil salesman.
Lastly, don't confuse all description and analysis of the candidate as partisan attacks meant to stick. If naive on your part, it's a stupid trap to fall into, wherein you assign anyone who doesn't worship as automatically being "enemy." In the "blinders" category that says almost nothing about theirs, but says a lot about yours. The automatic emotive assignation of anyone who says anything critical about
teh Chosen Oneyour favored candidate as being purely partisan/ideogical (and therefore automatically false) is a hallmark of True Believerism and PAR.If not naive, it's simply a mark of your own ideology/partisanship, and not about anyone else's.
Doesn't mean you're wrong about their intent, but it's not in the least a coherent or reasoned response to any sound argument on their part, whatever intent it's offered with. Instead it's downright childish dismissal. Might as well start talking rubber & glue at that point--you've reduced yourself to kindergarten taunts and abandoned the field of coherent discussion without ever offering anything of substance in response. Why waste all that rhetoric when you can boil the essence down to yo mama so fat and nyah nyah?
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Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. --Ambrose Bierce
Bill and Hill are one,
Bill and Hill are one, politically. They had every advantage and Obama took them apart.
As for deflection, we're not talking here about "sound arguments" by "anyone who doesn't worship," we're talking about Simon and "criticisms" like those directed at Mrs. Obama based on a rumored tape that has yet to achieve even a slight degree of reality, not to mention relevance.
It's been flag pins and nonsense for the most part, not sound arguments. It's been empty fear-mongering, not policy. Which is particularly strange given that even I -- supposedly a member of the cult -- can do a take-down on any number of Obama positions. Why are we talking instead about "whitey" and Jeremiah Wright and flag pins? Because a coherent policy position is beyond Republican capabilities at this point, given that the party is so clearly uncomfortable with their own candidate.
In order to move beyond "Fear the Obama, booga booga booga," we'd have to be able to contrast Obama on a given issue with McCain on a given issue. That would require Republicans to defend McCain's stands -- something they seem unwilling to do.
BS, Michael.
Bill and Hill are one, politically. They had every advantage
Bovine scatology, Michael. Hillary is her own, and visibly separating from Bill gained her traction, not lost it. He's a has-been. And I've been here on the electoral lines since last summer, watching from nice and up close and personal, front row reserved seat. The DNC's "fifty state strategy" was staffed up by the Deaniac "progressives" and both infiltrated and handed over early on to the Obamites, who thereafter had most of the internal DNC national/state ground apparatus at their disposal, while denying same to Clinton. This was readily apparent in key early states. I've only been writing about this ongoing internal power struggle since, oh, 2002 or so.
Repeating the same dodge-ball rhetoric doesn't address anything. Try again.
Oh, and BTW: I have been actively repudiating Stupid Obama Rumors for over a year, including with original reportage from source material. When the facts said the rumors were crap, I said so loud and clear. NO ONE HERE has been spreading the "Michelle whitey video" rumor, and we've actively debunked much BS. So pitch that line of crap somewhere else. We could equally as well accuse you of things YOU haven't done--but won't. It would be refreshing of you to employ the same standard.
Huh?
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Michael;
I think you've been confusing some criticisms with all critisms. And I think on this blog there's been both but of course it requires you to LISTEN/READ CLOSELY. Flag pin? meh! Rev. Wright? I was disturbed as an elder in a church as to THE "church politics thing", otherwise, meh! "Whitey"? C'mon. So if I say (as I said over a year ago) my three main goals are 1)character 2) competence and 3) centrism, is it ok to say that I haven't seen enough ACTION (read: legislation AND collaboration) to confirm the competence criteria and that his voting record is too far too the left for my taste (i.e. far from the center). Is that "reason" enough. The rest so far have just been "plot diversions".
Chris
He's not confusing anything,
He's not confusing anything, he's throwing out blazing strawmen for the sheer joy of arguing.
yes and no
I don't agree that the critiques of Obama at SF have been wholly substance-free. Usually not Tully's, and sometimes not Simon's. I regard some but not all of these critiques as non-substantive or close to it, and easily dismissable. But points about the incongruence between promises made and funding, expected available for example, are on he mark. Obama has to cpnvince me his idea of governance and compromise is legitimate bipartisnship, not "if we win we make all the new rules."
Where I do agree with you Michael is in noticing that for whatever reason and much to the dismay of Obama's critiques, Obama has shown a durable teflon quality. Substantive or not, the criticisms don't seem to be sticking. And that's one among several solid reasons why the GOP must do a far better job of focusing on the positive case for John McCain.
The problem for the GOP of course is that for so much of the party base, their heart is not in such an effort. The sale has never been made...the base isn't really buying. The base is really not especially motivated by the positive case for McCain. They are only motivated by the negative case against Obama. Motivated enough to show up at high rates and vote against him? That's the 270-electoral-vote question.
I think you are on target in mentioning Dole, because a similar thing happened that year. The bland and aged Dole evoked precious little enthusiasm, and the GOP focused its message against McCain, and got beat in a contest that while not a rout, was never IMO a contest that was much in doubt. The only thing the party achieved then was to make the base angrier and angrier.
And that may be the outcome here. Almost like a subconscious recognition of the impending defeat. If they can't win, the GOP wants their side to be foaming at the mouth come 1/20/09. Feed the beast, feed the beast, feed the beast!
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I have often said, and oftener think, that this world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. -Horace Walpole
Actually, it would require...
First it would require Sen. Obama to pick a stand on a given issue and, you know, stick with it. Which of Obama's positions on public financing of the campaign are we to contrast with McCain's, the one he had before he thought he could raise more money than the Republicans, or the one he had once he decided he had the fund-raising advantage? Which of his positions on NAFTA are we to contrast, the one where he thinks it's pure evil or the more "nuanced" one he's adopting for the general election? And is he the "new politician" wanting a "new kind of politics," a "politics of hope," or is he the same old tough-guy Chicago pol you now claim has been obvious to everybody since day one? Are we going to contrast with Obama's position on the flag pin back when he first started the campaign, or when he started wearing one after he called all the middle-Americans in the flyover states "bitter" people who are "clinging" to their guns and their religion?
And it's really time for you to take that "whitey" dreck elsewhere. You're beginning to sound as bad as the idiots with McCain's "100 years in Iraq" foolishness. Simon didn't mention that tape or the controvery or the rumor AT ALL until after Obama himself had spoken about it. You may have noticed (at Amba's place and elsewhere) that I criticized quite a few bloggers (in their comment section, not here) for helping out the (probably Clinton-hired) campaign dirty-tricksters responsible for starting the rumor, just by talking about the rumor at all. If you're willing to say that it was political foolishness for McCain to make the 100 year comment (even as you defend it's proper context), than surely you must admit it was political foolishness for Obama to have addressed that rumor at all.
And finally, as for Rev. Wright, you keep trying to play moral equivalence between his relationship with Obama and the various questionable religious figures which McCain and other GOP folks have associated themselves with. But there's not an equivalence there, which is the point many of us have tried to make. Show me a rabid, bigoted white preacher who served as a MENTOR for John McCain, who served as the inspiration for the book which helped launch him into the national eye, who was responsible for actually bringing McCain into Christianity itself, and I'll agree that it's an equivalent issue. If you're unwilling to admit that Obama and Wright had a much closer relationship, politically and personally, than just pastor and congregant, then you're ignoring reality.
Have you patented that yet, Michael?
Have you patented your particular approach to political deflection, Michael? As I've said before, you're pretty good (and certainly consistent) with it. First, you treat every criticism of your guy as a claim that the one fact alone justifies voting against him. Of a piece with that is treating the criticism of your guy as being the ONLY thing being done in the election, the only message being sent. One cannot, of course, recapitulate the entire campaign in any single blog post, so you'll always have some fodder for making those claims, which you do quite subtly and disingenuously.
Then, you ignore the specific criticism and attack not the comment being made but the person making the comment, by lumping in the commenter with his "ideological soulmates," ascribing to the current commenter responsibility for everything ANYBODY has said negatively about your guy. In the process, you bring in humor ("Baracknophobia") to tinge all criticism of Obama as part and parcel of lunacy. This is particularly ironic coming from a man who routinely asserted that Republicans used the phrase "Bush Derangement Syndrome" to attack any criticism of President Bush, regardless of merit. Pot, meet kettle.
Finally, you demand that the GOP and all McCain supporters engage in a unilateral surrender; that we ignore all of Sen. Obama's flaws and faults, while Sen. Obama and his campaign supporters feel free to criticize Sen. McCain repeatedly. I haven't for example, noticed you telling George Soros and his crowd to "make the case for Obama" rather than make baseless attacks against McCain over things like the "100 years in Iraq" lie that the camp of Obama supporters continues to spread.
You make a living off of IP. If they can patent business methods these days, surely you can get a patent for your particular method of partisan mendacity... ;-)
Too late, it's been in
Too late, it's been in public domain for millenia.
"You ignore the specific
"You ignore the specific criticism"
What specific criticism would that be? The specific criticism that Michelle Obama said "whitey" in a tape no one has seen let alone produced? In the case of this particular post I began by congratulating Simon for at last making an actual, on-point criticism of some relevance. It was a breakthrough.
As for the McCain 100 years remark, I referred to the exploitation of it as "the same old bull----" in one post and wrote this, John McCain was politically stupid but perfectly right when he said we might keep men in Iraq for a hundred years so long as they aren't fighting. That's not a 100 year war, it could be a 100 year peace. It's been 64 years in Germany. Is anyone really upset by that?
in another post.
I don't demand that you surrender or ignore Obama's faults. I do think it might be nice if you stopped inventing non-existent ones, that's all. Have I jumped on anyone here for criticizing Obama's health plan or position on Iraq? I've criticized Simon for repeating irrelevant rumors and innuendo and the GOP collectively for obsessing over Obama's creep of a pastor while studiously ignoring their own clerical creeps..
And yes, I am certainly ridiculing you for your collective inability to say a kind word for your candidate. You can hardly criticize us for our cultish love of Obama and then pretend that we are as silent on the virtues of our guy as you are on yours. Come on, Pat: say something nice about McCain. Have a couple drinks first and it won't hurt so much.
In case you missed it and
In case you missed it and just misread, Pat didn't say you were spreading that one, he was noting WE haven't asked you to defend things you've not said. But you're demanding just that of others here. See above.
You're playing CPD®, insisting that no one can legitimately criticize Obama unless they ALSO give some kind of equal time to criticizing McCain. What a diversionary pants-load.
I'm not looking for an equal
I'm not looking for an equal time rule. You don't have to criticize McCain. On the contrary, I'm wondering why you don't praise him. I'm suggesting that you could make more use of your precious Obama criticism time if you talked about issues, and in particular contrasted them with your presumed preference for Mr. McCain.
By the way, you should be able to criticize me for what I haven't said, within the limits of how often I bother writing. In fact, as I showed, I did step up to defend McCain against the Obama "100 years in Iraq" attack. I called it bs. "Outrage" that is all one-sided, that happens to coincide perfectly with partisanship, is empty and meaningless. It's ridiculous to be "outraged" at Jeremiah Wright and indifferent to Pat Robertson, to take one example.
I still think Wright is
I still think Wright is different than McCain's pastor problems. Pfleiger is a better analogy. He wasn't someone who Obama got a lot of his spiritual inspiration from or the pastor of his church that he was a member for 20 years. Pfleiger is an association who said something stupid. Wright is someone Obama leaned on for support, guidance and who he continue to listen to. That is different. You shouldn't have to defend everything people who are close to say but having someone who you say guides you than you are up for criticism when they say something bad.
Exactly, Bob...
There are two problems which Sen. Obama has with Rev. Wright. One, if he's telling the truth that he had never heard "that" Rev. Wright (you know, the God Damn America! one) in the 20 years he went to that church and regularly sought guidance from Wright, then he would appear to be an idiot, or at least a very poor judge of character. But few people believe him on that, so he seems instead to be just another lying politician, which is a problem when you run on the campaign of hope and change.
And his close association with Rev. Wright, and the other assorted questionable characters whom Sen. Obama has thrown under the increasingly large bus, is highly relevant to his ability to be President. More than most anything else, we need a President who is a good judge of character. Remember how stupid George Bush sounded when he talked about looking into Putin's eyes and understanding his soul? That sounded stupid because it was obvious to most folks that Putin was a throwback to the murdering thugs of Communist yester-year. JFK had to be a good judge of character to decide whether Kruschev would blink or not in the face of the blockade of Cuba. The President must work primarily through the thousands of people he appoints to executive branch positions. If he can sit in somebody's church for 20 years and be truly astounded when the man's bigotry and anti-Americanism is revealed, then that suggests a profound lack of ability to judge someone's character.
And what of the judgment of
And what of the judgment of a man who first attacks the religious right as "agents of intolerance," and then, when he needs the political support, falls all over himself flip-flopping and denying his earlier words?
Political pandering.
Political pandering.
Yep, that's pandering and flip-flopping.
You'll notice I never said Obama was the only one who did it. He IS the one, however, who has consistently claimed that we need a "new politics" of "hope." Most of us saw through it, and now you claim that because it was obvious to us all along that he was just another pol, that excuses it somehow, and we should all just get past it and never bring it up. Me, I say it's entirely fair for you to point out that McCain has flip-flopped on his position vis-a-vis the religious right (though I'm not sure I would call it "falling all over himself"; he wasn't THAT obsequious). I don't tell you to get over it already. You, however, call for McCain supporters to give up all criticism of Obama, because criticising him is trying to "find the fear," stirring up "Baracknaphobia."
Ya know, millions of
Ya know, millions of innocent pixels could have been saved had you just said he was for it before he was against it. :^D