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Federalism incentives, II

Submitted by Simon on Thu, 07/26/2007 - 7:10am

The LAT has this op/ed, picking up the "Guiliani as federalist" theme I sounded here.

Social issues such as gay rights and gun control divide America so sharply largely because no one has found a single solution for them equally acceptable to both churchgoing conservatives and secular liberals. The first step toward resolving these disputes may be to recognize that the search for a single solution has itself become part of the problem.

More than any other 2008 presidential hopeful, ... Giuliani has grasped that insight[,] ... argu[ing] that the best way to reduce tension about social issues is to allow states, rather than the federal government, to take the lead in responding to them. That would allow socially conservative and liberal states to each set rules that reflect the prevailing values inside their borders. Rather than perpetual combat in Washington, he insists, the nation could reach a new equilibrium as different states gravitated to different solutions.

"Even with this strong preference, Giuliani says 'you can't be a rigid slave to federalism.'" A more elegant way to phrase the same point was penned by Justice Black, some 36 years ago, in Younger v. Harris:

the entire country is made up of a Union of separate state governments, and ... the National Government will fare best if the States and their institutions are left free to perform their separate functions in their separate ways. This, perhaps for lack of a better and clearer way to describe it, is referred to by many as "Our Federalism," and one familiar with the profound debates that ushered our Federal Constitution into existence is bound to respect those who remain loyal to the ideals and dreams of "Our Federalism." The concept does not mean blind deference to "States' Rights" any more than it means centralization of control over every important issue in our National Government and its courts. The Framers rejected both these courses. What the concept does represent is a system in which there is sensitivity to the legitimate interests of both State and National Governments[.]

Quite aside from the mandates of formalism, there's a commanding normative case to be made for federalism, and I think it's very healthy that Guiliani's out there arguing it. And as the LAT and I have argued, his incentive structure gives us reason to take him at his word.

And I would think that in these times where liberals are concerned with the accumulation of power by the President, they would find such a concept attractive too, for, as Justice O'Connor wrote in Gregory v. Ashcroft:

Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate Branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one Branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front. ... One fairly can dispute whether our federalist system has been quite as successful in checking government abuse as Hamilton promised, but there is no doubt about the design. If this "double security" is to be effective, there must be a proper balance between the States and the Federal Government. These twin powers will act as mutual restraints only if both are credible. In the tension between federal and state power lies the promise of liberty.

States Rights

I wonder however, if abortion, gun control, marriage, school prayer, education, pollution control can be resolved by States without producing new problems between States.

I think that perhaps we might explore more State solutions. Healthcare is one topic. Gun control might be another if we prevent guns from crossing State borders. Pollution travels across State lines.

Some argue that Bloomberg's congestion plan is an affront to motorized liberty. I think a City/State has a right to protect itself against undue congestion. I wonder if States have the right to ban uninspected food or even enforce labor laws governing illegal immigrants. And one State that bans illegals is at a disadvantage with one that doesn?t.

confusing

One place to start might be the State's control of national guard. Why can't a State use its national guard to police the border? Seems Feds and States have a problem Hamilton didn't exactly solve. We all know the importance our Founding Fathers put in militia's ability to resist Federal tyranny.

UPDATE this might be a case for State's Rights as well.

States' rights is kind of a

States' rights is kind of a dirty word, and not without good reason. In any event, it seems to address a certain formalist, structural view of the states as these entities that, in that lovely phrase from Blatchford, "entered the union with their sovereignty intact." But as Justice Black's Younger opinion intimates, one can make arguments for federalism that appeal to its normative appeal rather than its formalist pedigree. That is, one can say that "federalism [c]ould be understood not in terms of states' rights, but rather in terms of the national interest in the independent functioning of the states," Althouse, How to Build a Separate Sphere: Federal Courts & State Power, 100 Harv. L. Rev. 1485, 1508, and more pointedly, that "federalism is no mere vestige of the pre-constitutional era ... The states are a means; the end is the liberty of their citizens. States are valuable alternative governments which have power because it benefits the people to diffuse power," Althouse, Variations on a Theme of Normative Federalism: a Supreme Court Dialogue, 42 Duke L.J. 979, 980. And I think when you're talking to ordinary voters, in this day and age, civics education has become so atrophied that it's become necesssary to offer a normative justification for these seemingly arcane rules. People don't learn civics in a way that the formalist argument is intuitive, and don't even get me started on the appeal to tradition - people don't read Oakeshott in school. They don't read Burke. If they learn about the French Revolution, they certainly don't learn about Reflections on the Revolution in France. I really worry that the Constitution may be lost in my lifetime, and if switching emphasis from formalism to the inherent virtues of the system can help open the door for people to understand and engage, then I think that's okay, as long as we don't lose sight of the fact that this isn't only about normative federalism. Like standing, there's prudential aspects that can be bent and there are structural aspects that can't.

In terms of the particular points you raise - I don't have any objection in the abstract to congestion plans. "[M]otorized liberty"? Well, you can have all the motorized liberty you like as long as you aren't driving on roads. The state has the authority to impose such charges, although I think it ought to do so sparingly and only as necessary. Can states "ban uninspected food or even enforce labor laws governing illegal immigrants"? I would imagine you'd get into federal preemption and negative commerce clause problems.

Can "abortion, gun control, marriage, school prayer, education, [and] pollution control ... be resolved by States without producing new problems between States"? Oh, I expect that it'd produce tensions. That's a given. But in all instances, the questions are, in order, does the state have legal authority to do this, does it have the moral authority to do this, and is this good policy? I think school prayer may or may not belong on that list, because school prayer may raise a legitimate federal question, depending on how one construes the establishment clause in light of the 14th Amendment.

You're right about the militia, but the militia the framers knew doesn't even begin to resemble the national guard of today, see Amar, America's Constitution: a Biography 321-6 (2005), which is one reason why the 2d amendment is such a difficult puzzle.

Nice references for a rainy day -thanks

Well, you can have all the motorized liberty you like as long as you aren't driving on roads.

Well, not really. There are regulations concerning off road liberties.

Can states "ban uninspected food or even enforce labor laws governing illegal immigrants"? I would imagine you'd get into federal preemption and negative commerce clause problems.

Then either the Federal or the State governments do not serve the citizens of said States. I wonder if a governor can act to protect the health of its citizens, or the wages of its workers against the tyrannical neglect of said responsibilities of the Federal government.

You're right about the militia, but the militia the framers knew doesn't even begin to resemble the national guard of today, see Amar, America's Constitution: a Biography 321-6 (2005), which is one reason why the 2d amendment is such a difficult puzzle.

Still, in light of the failure of Federal power to protect the citizens of a State bordering a foreign nation, it is reasonable to assume a State Militia ought to be available to provide local protection. Katrina and Iraq brought the problem up in another way. Or could a governor deputize a citizen militia to bear arms under orders to secure the border? There is certainly a cloud hanging over the Second Amendment. Absent from the debate is the strange omission in the Constitution from enumerating the right for a citizen to bear arms in self-defense which seems a basic right ubiquitous in 18th century society.

Thanks for the response and as usual, it will take some time researching the information you supplied. It is important that a deeper understanding of our very Constitution is not lost in our life times, or that this understanding is perverted by illiberal tendencies to replace our Founding Father's experiment with a more radical one of dubious merit and dangerous consequence.

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